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PostSubject: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 2:32 am


Subject: RFID chip to be implanted by March 23, 2013
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This new law requires an RFID chip implanted in all of us. This chip will not
only contain your personal information with tracking capability but it will
also be linked to your bank account. And get this, Page 1004 of the new law
(dictating the timing of this chip), reads, and I quote: “Not later than 36
months after the date of the enactment”. It is now the law of the land that
by March 23rd 2013 we will all be required to have an RFID chip underneath
our skin and this chip will be link to our bank accounts as well as have our
personal records and tracking capability built into it.
http://polidics.com/news/another-hidden- [1]...
On Sunday March 21, 2010 the Senate Healthcare bill HR3200 was passed and
signed into law the following Tuesday.

Page 1004 of the new law (dictating the timing of this chip), reads, and I
quote: "Not later than 36 months after the date of the enactment"

H.R. 3200 section 2521, Pg. 1001, paragraph 1.

"The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this
subsection referred to as the ‘registry’)
to facilitate analysis of post-market safety and outcomes data on each device
that— ‘‘is or has been used in or on
a patient; ‘‘and is— ‘‘a class III device; or ‘‘a class II
device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.”

Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/MedicalDevi [2]...
A class II implantable device is an "implantable radio frequency transponder
system for patient identification and health information." The purpose of a
class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as "claims data,
patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling
and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health
records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary."

Class III devises are items such as breast implants, pacemakers, heart
valves, etc. A Class II device that is implantable is, as you seen from the
FDA, an implantable radio frequency transponder, RFID chip. From breast
implants, to pacemakers, to RFID chips which one is the only possible one
that can used for the stated purpose in section B which is, “for linking
such data with the information included in the registry”? As we know from
subsection A, the information in the registry is the name of a device. In
plain speak, we are in a clear way being told that our electronic medical
records are going to be linked to a class II implantable device!

“The Secretary to protect the public health; shall establish procedures to
permit linkage of information submitted pursuant to subparagraph (A, remember
subparagraph A is the class 2 implantable device reference) with patient
safety and outcomes data obtained under paragraph (3, which is electronic
medical records); and to permit analyses of linked data;”

Continuing on to page 1007, in the STANDARDS, IMPLEMENTATION CRITERIA, AND
CERTIFICATION CRITERIA section, the secretary of health and human services is
given full power to intact all mandates from the laundry list of to-do items
in the creation process of the registry as well as dictate how the devises
listed in the National Medical Device Registry are to be used and
implemented.

"The Secretary of the Health Human Services, acting through the head of the
Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology, shall
adopt standards, implementation specifications, and certification criteria
for the electronic exchange and use in certified electronic health records of
a unique device identifier for each device described in paragraph 1 (National
Medical Device Registry), if such an identifier is required by section 519(f)
of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. 360i(f)) for the
device."

Notice here in this part which is at the beginning of 2000 plus pages of the
law, it is carefully worded “which may include utilization of a
machine-readable health plan beneficiary identity detection card”. Here we
are told that it may be a card. As you have already seen, deeper in the law
[Sec. 2521 Pg. 1000] what this “may” utilize is clearly spelled out as a
“class II device that is implantable”.

Now on Page 503, section E Lines 13-17 and I quote: "encourage, as
appropriate, the development and use of clinical registries and the
development of clinical effectiveness research data networks from electronic
health records, post marketing drug and medical device surveillance efforts".
Let me say that again, medical device surveillance efforts!

Now lets look at section 163 of HR3200, which gives the government a direct
electronic access to your bank account which will work in conjunction with an
implanted chip.

Page 58 Lines 5 through 15 reads:
(D) enable the real-time (or near real time) determination of an
individual’s financial responsibility at the point of service and, to the
extent possible, prior to service, including whether the individual is
eligible for a specific service with a specific physician at a specific
facility, which may include utilization of a machine-readable health plan
beneficiary identity detection card; (E) enable, where feasible, near
real-time adjudication of claims

What does this mean? It means that the government will give everybody a
health ID card that contains a machine readable device (magnetic strip or
RFID chip) similar to a credit card. Embedded in this chip or strip is your
Health Identification Number. When you visit a medical provider, the medical
claims will be processed while you are still in the office. The medical
providers will be paid in real time. The portion that you owe will be
deducted from your bank account, in real time, according to HR 3200.

Read up on more: Another hidden secret in Obamacare "RFID Chip Implants" -
Patriot Action Network

http://www.preparedsociety.com/forum/f31 [3]...
Compassionate use information is available on FDA’s web site at
http://www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/Device [4]...
http://google2.fda.gov/search?q=rfid&cli [5]...


[1] http://polidics.com/news/another-hidden-
[2] http://www.fda.gov/downloads/MedicalDevi
[3] http://www.preparedsociety.com/forum/f31
[4] http://www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/Device
[5] http://google2.fda.gov/search?q=rfid&cli

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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 2:42 am

you lot are fucked!!
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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 3:18 am

from watching mythbusters some soldiers already have these chips. the thing is these chips cannot contain personal info, all it is is a number that comes up and you then have to check a database for any personal data.

i don't think people should be forced to have anything like this but in the event of an accident people can be identified, the police could use it to identify criminals. though saying all that the scanner has to be within a few cm of the device
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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 3:22 am

I can imagine Michele's chip being scanned;

'You got to see this, guys! I just scanned this chick's chip and...'
'What is it?'
'First bit of info on this chick I got was, well...it's a big, black cock!'
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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 3:45 am

This is a lie
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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 3:46 am

Is this from one of those "Omaba is the devil"- pages? 8) Most of those links don't work.. must be Obama's work. Or just stuff to scare people with. You never know.
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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 7:53 am

I don't believe it either. Scaremongering!
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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 7:56 am

I of course have found material that counters those claims, will post online from home later. Michele as always does not fully research anything and relies upon frige extremist sites for her info, usually Christian doomsday propaganda, which is funny cause she's an atheist
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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 8:00 am

Oh and here's an easy one, cited above is HR 3200, but that is not what was passed, the Patient Protection and Affordable Act, known as Obamacare by nuts like Michele, is HR 3590 and does not contain the same damn language as HR 3200!
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alondrianyx wrote:
from watching mythbusters some soldiers already have these chips. the thing is these chips cannot contain personal info, all it is is a number that comes up and you then have to check a database for any personal data.

i don't think people should be forced to have anything like this but in the event of an accident people can be identified, the police could use it to identify criminals. though saying all that the scanner has to be within a few cm of the device


LMAO!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 8:27 am

Jesse I recall just a few years ago YOU were the one saying on here that we were gonna be chipped and warning people on here to not even get their pets chipped because pet chipping was part of the conditioning to get humans to accept being chipped down the line!!
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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 8:28 am

but then again, you do work for the government so maybe by now you have been brainwashed to believe the propaganda mainstream lies!

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LadyMandingo wrote:
but then again, you do work for the government so maybe by now you have been brainwashed to believe the propaganda mainstream lies!

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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 8:36 am

of course the page that goes to the FDA website the info is no longer found there and is not available any longer.
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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 9:34 am

why is what i said so funny
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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 9:53 am

of course Michele ignores how I just pointed out how WRONG she is AGAIN..read for yourself...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/microchip.asp

Michele please do not post LIES without proper research, it just makes you look like a fucking jackass

and for the record, I still am against the threat of microchips, I just don't believe I have that to fear from Obama
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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 11:11 am

this is all pish posh. the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare 2183661037

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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 11:17 am

isn't everything political from Michele pish posh? Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeWed Feb 15, 2012 4:52 pm

alondrianyx wrote:
why is what i said so funny

who was laughing at what you said?
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Denovissimus wrote:
of course Michele ignores how I just pointed out how WRONG she is AGAIN..read for yourself...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/microchip.asp

Michele please do not post LIES without proper research, it just makes you look like a fucking jackass

and for the record, I still am against the threat of microchips, I just don't believe I have that to fear from Obama

I dont see why you wouldnt fear that from Obama, considering he has lied about everything he said he was gonna do, has expanded the power of the federal government even more than GW has, and has just continued the policies of GW


And even if Obama would never do that, he is only going to be president at most for another 5 years, at least for 1 other year. The next guy in could do it, and that wouldnt be that far into the future.
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Denovissimus wrote:
isn't everything political from Michele pish posh? Rolling Eyes

if you call freedom and personal liberty pish-posh
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I wouldn't mind becoming an cyborg. I have plenty of parts id like to change. the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare 949469974
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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 16, 2012 3:28 am

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Michele please do not post LIES without proper research, it just makes you look like a fucking jackass

Michele, please continue posting stuff without proper research,it does wonders for my superiority-complex.

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PostSubject: Re: the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare   the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 18, 2012 6:47 am

HA! Mine too. Where does she come up with some of this stuff? the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare 2271603068
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We should just start calling her Chicken Little the chips are coming soon, thanks to Obamacare 2271603068
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