Julien's Juice 532 ~ We will rise from the flames and The Gods will know our names

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See, optimism?

Okay lady; where is Anne and what have you done to her?

Nicky Mayfair wrote:

what won't you be able to do?

Go to the gym during my "lunch hour" for starters!

Got to be more mindful of web surfing

I'll have no where to hide and rest my eyes like I do here

I'll set a certain spirit in motion to keep you where you are then!!

darkeyes80 wrote:

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jajjajajjajaja very funny

*Puts on redneck-accent:*So now, you're not just marrying a latino; you're starting to spell like one, too. Speaka de english?

I like the jajaja I think it is funny. Sometimes when Daniel says something sarcastic to me verbally to him I say "jajajaja" pronouncing the J as we do in the english language lo

darkeyes80 wrote:

Spoken like a true Social democrat. We're becoming more "american" overhere. the new king reminded the people that although times are changing, we musn't forget that, we still need eachother to make it work and not to become too...self-involved. you share your country; you don't keep it all to yourself. It makes things so much easier and it leaves resources and time to explore new things,instead of holding on to what is kept for an elite-group. Governments sould evolve with their people. For the Netherlands;it's working. Even in times of crisis.

A mega-power like the US could become even greater if it just got a teensy bit, "redder".

Barackoff Obamovic,all the way

the US is no longer the true superpower of the world, in part because I think that no country can remain a superpower for all time, eventually it will fall and new countries will rise to be the "superpowers" with each era, (this has ALWAYS been the case throughout history) but the second reason I think that it is crumbling is because over the past 100 years our freemarket capitalism society has been slowly eroded by the private banks who use our politicians as their puppets, to develop what we now have which is not true capitalism, but corporatism, which could very easily and very scary go even further into communism. I honestly believe that Obama is probably a communist and he would love to make us a communist country. I dont think so that he will accomplish this, but I think that is probably his real goal. I dont think any social system is perfect, they all have a few flaws. But I think that free market capitalism is the best, and is the only system to give true liberty to all individuals, the least suppressing. But then again, sometimes I think this is not true about Obama, he is not a communist but simply a corporate puppet and nothing more lol. His loyalities are only to the banks and elite who line his pockets. I think he is either one or the other. He really has no clue about how capitalism truly works, or he doesnt care because it is not in his interest to care. But that is neither here nor there. I cant get him kicked out of office!

Why should you have to give up more of what you earned if you are rich? Why should you be punished for being so driven and successful? If you become successful in honest and moral business practices, kudos to you! You deserve your earnings, you should not be punished for being more successful and have a large chunk of that forcefully given away. You should be free to do with your money as you so please, if you want to voluntarily give some of it away to help the needy, that is your perrogative to decide if, when, and how much, not forced to give over a large percentage of your earnings and then everytime the gov wants to keep going to more wars and spend spend spend more money the rich have to pay even MORE taxes? That is bullshit! There are always going to be people in every society who are inherently smarter, more driven, more business savy, more talented and whatnot than other people. That is the way life is. Those who are less so can still play their role in contributing something to society for whatever type of work best suits them, while still feeding themselves and their children while doing it. And those people shouldnt have to pay 30% of their earnings to the government, either. I know I will never be so successful that I will be rich. I am totally fine with that. I accept that I do not have enough of the needed skills and talent to make me a millionaire. I have no problem being a person who earns about $50,000 a year or whathave you. I have to live within the means that I am capable of earning. I dont feel envious or hateful to other people just because they are inherently better at making riches for myself than I am.

Denovissimus wrote:

going through all the stuff in my cubile, damn I have a lot of shit, trying to decide if friday should be my last day here or next friday, feel like I shouldn't delay the inevitable

Wait you are QUITTING your job? Why? What happened?

Jesse ignore my last post. Congrats on your promotion!!!!

I didn't get a promotion bubble girl, just a reassignment

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But I think that free market capitalism is the best, and is the only system to give true liberty to all individuals, the least suppressing.

I'll start here and dissect the rest of your post another day cause as usual you need correction.

Free Market Capitalism creates economic divides. It is not the best system to those of us who realize that everyone should be equal at all levels. Least suppressing? That is laughable. It thrives on suppression! Cause those who profit wish to keep their profits and will do what they can to profit more and prevent others from infringing on their profits. This is your perfect system? Get a clue honey.

as long as your business practices are ethical and you are selling a reputable product or service that is not intentionally and knowingly hurting people then there is nothing wrong with making a profit! Earning profits or doing what you want to do in life leads to liberty because it leads to pride, honor, SATISFACTION, self ownership, and MOTIVATION! There is no motivation to do well at a job if your hard work is not going to pay off to benefit yourself. If you have to share everything you earn with everyone else, especially with those who dont work as hard. Self ownership being the number 1 benefit and motivation of free market capitalism, and it is what brings about the most personal satisfaction for a person. Again, you are thinking of corporatism, where for example the pharm companies are making billions of dollars in profits on selling people products that make them unhealthy and sick. This is allowed because they bride our government officials who then create these bureaucratic, uneelected alphabet soup agencies to "regulate". It creates a large group of lazy people who want to live off of everyone else without contributing themselves. And why should they when they can live off the backs of the hard working people? We already have too much of an entitlement society and I already see too much of people living off the system and stealing from us working people when they are more than capable of working.

I will give you an example. Two of the waitresses I work with at the restaurant have the fucking nerve to BRAG about how they can cheat the system and collect food stamps while working FULL TIME pulling about $800 and up a week at the restaurant and they always say "I love Obama. Thanks to him it is easier for me to get food stamps while working" now I dont agree with their statement of "thanks to Obama" cause i dont see how he could have made it easier. I know I have been out of social work for several years but I know you have to PROVE that you have very little to no income to get any kind of food stamps before they give it to you, it cant have changed that much. I used to know people who had an income of only $800 a month and could only get like $40 in food stamps, maybe it is more lienant where now that $800 a month person maybe now can get $100 in food stamps, but it cant be so lienant that these girls can get any amount of food stamps based on what I know they are making weekly without COMPLETELY LYING OUT THEIR ASSES.

Both are single mothers, yes. But the one girl only has 1 kid and she lives with her mother RENT FREE! The other girl has two kids. I know less about her situation. I dont know if she lives on her own, or with her mother, or if she gets any child support or not from the father, but even if she lives on her own and gets NO child support, based on her real income she should not be collecting food stamps. As a tax payer who is FORCED to fork over 30% of my income to the state and federal, this pisses me the fuck off that some of my money is going in the pockets of these scam artists and system leeches and moochers. And I am telling you, more often than not the people who are on entitlement programs are scamming it rather than truly needing help. I have known stories from other case workers of people who were working full time jobs making 40k a year who were on FULL subsidized housing and didnt pay a DIME in rent, scamming the system.

When you have the freedom to earn your own, to strive or your own level of success, to be able to keep what you earn, to be able to own your own property if you choose, you have much higher levels of self satisfaction, pride, happiness, respect, all the things we all strive for. When we are happier and more fullfilled, we WANT to do for others, we want to help others, voluntarily, choosing to help the people we want to help in whatever way we can or want to. A voluntary society is the most rewarding.

Communism I think cannot be done without tyranny. I dont think it is possible and I think that is why we have yet to see communism without tyranny. Communism only sounds good on paper, because it is a complete fantasy, and in reality it just will never bring the fullfillment is so wishes to everyone.

I remember when I was getting my BA in sociology, I had to take Social Theory. Karl Marx and Max Weber do sound great on paper, but there is a reason why they are utopian theories. Cause they are complete fantasies. I remember digging it when I was reading their work, then when I had to write papers on it, and gave it alot of critical thinking, and just looking through history of what has been done before, realized that it is not the best type of society.

I dont expect to change your mind, Jesse. I have evolved and been enlightened. I know you are a far ways off! kiddng, kind of. haha So you can try to debate me all you want. Go for it. You will never convince me as I will never convince you.

oh and the spa i work at is Russian owned and everyone who works there is from Russia, Georgia, or BelaRussia. I also work with at the restaurant a couple of girls from Ukraine and Estonia. All former soviet countries. not a single one of them ever complains that we are not a communist country, or that they miss communism. Nope, not at all. They work hard to succeed for themselves, not for everyone else. that is why they came to this country. And all of them are at least permanent residents, most of them are now US citizens.

You do not read or understand anything Anne or Rodney tries to educate you on do you Michele? You are as dumb as the rest of bad spelling tea baggers. Sad really. Do us all a favor and concentrate on your new american role as wife and expected baby maker and stay away from politiks mmkay?

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I like the jajaja I think it is funny. Sometimes when Daniel says something sarcastic to me verbally to him I say "jajajaja" pronouncing the J as we do in the english language do

You mean when you text him? How would he know "jajajaja" from "hahahaha" when they sound the same?

In dutch, the word "ja"("yah") means; "yes". To me "jajajajaja" reads like "yesyesyesyesyes"

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I dont expect to change your mind, Jesse. I have evolved and been enlightened.

You finally mastered upright stance and have started using tools? Way to catch up, Michele!Good for you!

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oh and the spa i work at is Russian owned and everyone who works there is from Russia, Georgia, or BelaRussia. I also work with at the restaurant a couple of girls from Ukraine and Estonia. All former soviet countries. not a single one of them ever complains that we are not a communist country, or that they miss communism. Nope, not at all. They work hard to succeed for themselves, not for everyone else. that is why they came to this country. And all of them are at least permanent residents, most of them are now US citizens.

But we weren't talking about russia. You're making a point whilst completely circumventing the points made in previous points. Why don't you adress that instead of talking about ex-soviet defectors.

The long posts clearly show that you have a one-track mind.you don't respond to anything we said and actually...discuss. you start talking about communism as if you know what you're talking about. Comparing Obama's politics to the former-soviet union and communism to make a point, clearly shows that discussing this with you is utterly pointless.

I just can't get pass the fact she loves and worries over the rich so much. Boo hoo the rich. I guess progressive taxing principles aren't included in the capitalist lunch box. I also have to say that corporatism was born because of capitalism.. it could just be a sidestep as Michele explained but I really much doubt it. Rather it will lead us to oligarky of the rich. But that's okay, they have every right!


Perhaps this chat thread is not the best place to argue these things though. lol.




We have a company party tonight. I am not really sure what my stomach says about another drunk fest so close to previous but I am trying to take it slow.

Morning!

I know I shouldn't have but I had one of McDonald's new egg white mcmuffins this morning and already I can feel it working my bowels! I also was a bad boy and had wings for lunch yesterday, and beer! and had no dinner, just three very strong beers! hence my wanting to try the egg white mcmuffin cause my stomach was empty

need to research this cutting down cholesteral thing proper

I'm going to post the article soon about how to get a 6 pack!

yeah Jane! since I'm cutting out red meat, pork, and other stuff maybe I can get half a six pack, lol, cause I'm not giving up drinking!

not much point getting a six-pack I think, I mean apart from the bedroom when is anyone ever gonna see it?!

On the beach.....or if you wear a tight top.....people can tell!

It is really hard work though, which is why most people would not consider it worth the effort. I don't think I can modify my diet enough to achieve it....

Meat is ok Jesse as long as it's not too fatty. And have lots of chicken!

for the few paltry months of summer we get in this country it's barely worth it! and that top would have to be almost like lycra! better for a man at least to have big arms or something

big arms are sexy, I don't mind a soft middle on a man cause I have a soft middle, I don't have a gut though so thankful for that, but its not as flat as I wish it could be, also a little love handles on the side, would much rather trim those off...Manuel my sometimes fling thinks I look quite fit but he compares me to himself whereas I compare myself to those young stallions I see in the gym, lol.

I don't mind a soft middle either, and you can't do anything WITH a six-pack, whereas big arms have more...obvious uses